Wow 
… TDS is strong, I didn’t think this place had so much underlying hate
TDS?
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Trump derangement syndrome? Was first used when Bush was president… BDS…
Not sure it’s hate Andy, just astonishment and concern for the wider world. The Democrats must shoulder a lot of blame-replacing a senile old duffer with a half time substitute who is female and not white was catastrophic. The US is not ready for that sort of a candidate. Trump is savvy enough to know that Americans want it to be the 1950s for ever 
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I don’t follow American politics, so my thoughts are this. Millions of people voted for Trump even though he is a criminal and is portrayed in the world press as a misogynistic woman hater; why then elect him into the most powerful job in the world.
It just doesn’t make any sense to me, am I missing something?
I’m with you mate. Completely eludes me.
Yeah, don’t be fooled that because we have a “similar” language (
) our cultures are the same.
Millions of Americans also think “the right to bear arms” is a good thing to be defended. I’ve noted genuine/random comments from fellow American bikers around this subject that I find very alienating.
This won’t exactly explain things but it may be an aid to further understanding…
H. L. Mencken was based in Baltimore, Maryland where he wrote for “The Sun” and its companion newspaper “The Evening Sun”.
No one in this world, so far as I know—and I have searched the records for years, and employed agents to help me—has ever lost money by underestimating the intelligence of the great masses of the plain people. Nor has anyone ever lost public office thereby. The mistake that is made always runs the other way. Because the plain people are able to speak and understand, and even, in many cases, to read and write, it is assumed that they have ideas in their heads, and an appetite for more. This assumption is a folly.
Mencken’s column was reprinted in other newspapers. For example, on the next day, September 19, the piece appeared in the “Chicago Sunday Tribune” of Illinois2 and the “San Francisco Chronicle” of California.3
And, just in case it’s seen as impertinent by any of our American members, it was sent to me by my very best friend who is, of course, American born and bred. He also happens to be a decorated Vietnam vet.; USN fighter pilot (A4s). and THE best restorer (and rider) of Norton singles you could ever hope to meet. AND a REALLY nice guy to boot …
No further comment.
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I think before we point accusing fingers across the pond, we might look to our own political machinations… I cannot proudly point to many years in my lifetime where I personally feel the UK has had sound political leadership or opposition. And those that I can do, I am sure others could rip to pieces with information that I didn’t know or consider!
So congratulations Trump!
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No pointing fingers from me, just a complete lack of understanding on the Americans thought process.
But hey they obviously have a much better understanding of their political leaders than I/we have.
I just hope that the next four years the world does not regret the decision.
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He thinks climate change is a ‘scam’, and intends to scrap climate protection policies. As the USA is the world’s second biggest polluter, the damage to the rest of the world will be massive.
Yes. To be fair he also won the popular vote, so a clear winner. When l look at our setup, we have a government with a stonking majority and yet actually almost 2 out of 3 votoers didn’t vote for them. Happened before with Blair and Thatcher. That can’t be right 
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No democratic system is perfect and you can never please everybody (especially the losers!). The US and UK systems are quite different and although Trump won the popular vote this time, in 2016 when he defeated Hilary Clinton, Clinton actually received more votes.
In the UK, at least the party that gets the most votes generally gets to govern without the need to try and form coalitions.
Neither system is perfect, but neither is the system that exists in much of Europe where you have cobbled together coalitions that regularly collapse - just look at the current situation in Germany.
Any democratic system is however vastly better than the alternative system - dictatorship.
To protect democracy you have to respect the outcome, no matter how much you hate it, otherwise you risk a far worse outcome.
Respect the choices of the American electorate rather than ridicule them.
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Personally.
Accept rather than respect.
Commiserate rather than ridicule.
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The majority got what they voted for so they don’t need commiserations.
Don’t deserve, more like… 
Again with the ridicule 
Wasn’t Geert Wilders PVV the largest party in the last Dutch election? Those in glass houses…
Not reallly. A handful of constituencies with slender majorities tend to determine the outcome. Without Scotland Labour is in proper trouble. The majority of us in safe seats, whichever side of the divide, are more or less disenfranchised.
We keep hearing about the weaknesses of PR as used in many European countries. But how does their performance in health care, education, pensions, welfare and living standards stack up? Pretty favourably, really. I’d be all for giving it a go, anyway.
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Didn’t get my vote mate. And it remains to be seen how long his administration lasts…
No ridicule intended, btw… just my opinion…