While we wait for Triumph to reveal they’re latest 800 this month, what should they work on next? Are any of the existing models getting long in the tooth, or is there a gap in the range for some people? A smaller Rocket 3? (The Rockette?) or maybe a Speed Single. Or should they go all-in and develop a premium electric sportsbike?
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Said it before, they need to make a new SprintST/Tiger Sport using the 1200 triple engine with semi-active suspension and luggage, possibly shaft drive.
A sport tourer/tall-rounder for 2-up touring and they’ll get my interest, otherwise I’ll make do with my S1000XR.
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is my opinion on that…
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Maybe a road version…
https://www.triumphmotorcycles.co.uk/motorcycles/off-road/motocross/tf-450-rc-edition-2025
A sports tourer based on the Speed Triple 1200 with a proper fairing, road compliant suspension and 150+ hp would suit me nicely.
Failing that, I’d settle for a Tiger Sport 800 with 120hp.
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I could go for a new sports tourer as well. Whatever the BHP, give it lots of usable torque and don’t make it weigh the same as a small frigate.
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Is Nick Bloor reading this?
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When I was on the factory tour, I am sure the guy mentioned they were bringing out a road legal version of this.
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Just a Quick Look at this forum and its eagerness for the value of the 400s range hints at what is popular. You know what I’d like to see Triumph do? A 900 triple roadster, pared back but quality equipment so it runs and rides reliably and fun with a similar silhouette to the Speed Twin… and make it sub £8000 (and the speed twin too)
Things like optional ABS or tft screen with rider modes etc to keep the cost down… (I’d be happy with a speedo, odometer and lights single unit, if it saves brass but functions well)
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They can’t produce a bike over 125cc without ABS, though they could just provide a basic 2 channel set up without cornering ABS, and Traction control etc, so do away with the more expensive 6 axis IMU. At a guess I’d say the TFTs are now cheaper than providing clocks and as you say reducing the number of modes would reduce costs further though they’d then be in danger of not meeting customers expectations when they included certain tech on similar bikes before.
I know it’s a different business model but BMW are moving away from basic bikes to only giving the bells and whistles variety on things like the GS. As most BMWs are bought on a PCP so customers want the full fat vesrions as it doesn’t cost them much more per month as the residuals on these full fat bikes are higher than on basic models because of more demand so Triumph would need (and have probably done) the analysis to see what their customers actually want and are prepared to pay for? No doubt the price gap between basic and full fat bikes will increase and people (like me) have already reached the tipping point where they’re not prepared to pay over £20k for a bike so volumes of cheaper bikes will no doubt increase, it’s just a case of Triumph finding the right mix. Though next week’s budget could do the bike industry some serious damage if taxes go up and peoples disposable income goes down as a result and consumer confidence takes a hit.
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A 1050ST with the Speed 1050 RS engine . Electric forks and suspension with a simple modern look . A modern and fast Sports Tourer.
The 1200 Speed engine looks to be too revvy, they have changed it from the 1050 just to make a high top end power figure. Completely unnecessary for a Sports Tourer.
The RS 1050 engine with an upgraded gear box and a few kilos shaved off it would be perfect. Great MPG, power where you want it and character. A simple recipe …!
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Agree, although I’m sure they could retune the 1200 for maximum torque in favour of bhp (and keep conventional crank timing - no T plane for me thanks). And please keep the seat height down!
I am looking to be a bit more sure footed than on my current S1000XR (840mm seat height), I was surprised to see the new 800 Tiger Sport is only 5mm lower. Looks like I’m more likely to be trading for the “Low Suspension” XR at 810mm
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Get one before they add the lowering suspension they’ve fitted to the 1300GS which adds another £500 to the bill and is having some Beta testers teething problems
Yeah, the low speed lowering system is attractive in principle but yet something else to go wrong (and add yet more cost).
The “minimum” setting on my present one is laughably pointless only being possible to select/deselect at standstill in N.
At 6’3” that’s not a problem I have but the opposite affects me that if there’s not enough legroom between the rests and the saddle it’s a no go for me …
Different strokes for different folks !
Gawd knows how I fit on the MV …!
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They could always sort out the 400’s glitches before starting the next project!! 
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I learnt years ago, never buy a newly released bike (or car), let the dust settle at least a year, preferably two. By then the early takers will have completed their beta testing. 
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Yes, good thinking!!
I had read so much about the 400 over quite a long period, I didn’t realise just how newly released it was! 
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I have to agree when it comes to bikes. I have a few problems with my speed twin 1200 from new (front brake and gear change). And with my thunderbird lt initially, the later settled down though after the initial problems.
I’ve been a bit luckier with cars though.