Here fella
I simply don’t understand how, how I vote based on who I think can empty my bins better is in anyway a reflection of how I may feel about the government.
It’s like, someone, somewhere, decided that there’s a connection and we’ve run with it. There isn’t.
If they blue team, round here, offer a really good service emptying the bins… I’m not going to allow some media outlet, who’s agenda is to sell content, extrapolate out that that means I’m in favour of asylum seekers to Rowanda.
It really is an assumption that the people are stupid…
It irritates the flip out of me to the extent I simply don’t care.
I hate it. I hate it all.
I totally agree and yet I think the majority of people would vote for a pig dressed in either a red or blue coat as appropriate.
Edit: Cue jokes of they’re voting for pigs/rats/animals anyway.
Political parties love people who don’t intefere with what they want to do to/for the country. You might as well wear a blue rosette. 
I won’t express any opinion on your domestic politics/politicians: I am an uninvited guest to a UK forum and know my place. As a note on politics in general though, I have stopped ridiculing (etc.) elected politicians or expressing loss of faith (etc.) in the political system. Sad in a way, as it used to be so much fun.
Personally I think that liberal, western democracy is the greatest invention around to govern a society, be it on local, regional or national level. I used to see it as the natural state for the part of the world I feel I belong to. But times are rougher now. Countries close to us are taking different directions. Traditionally liberal countries are split in two opposites with little room for middle ground. In this perspective I find it dangerous to fuel any disgust of politicians and politics. In today’s world this is paving the road for what I consider much worse alternatives.
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Don’t feel the need to hold back if you wish to comment on UK politics, I doubt you would offend anyone, many on here despise our politicians and some are not happy with our voting system.
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Uninvited? I don’t think so. I reckon you’re more than free to vent any vexations you might have.
Me, I stay out of this stuff because I can’t be bothered.
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I find that there are no politicians worth a vote. The red and blue parties have merged into a sort of murky purple liberal/socialist mess. The greens have been hijacked by capitalists to force net zero and other privations on us. I am edging towards Reform because they almost represent me, a straight, old, white curmudgeon.
As far as local elections are concerned (which was the original post) I may spoil my paper as a protest against the poor treatment of genuine voters, young and old, who may not possess the required photographic ID.
Where I live though there are certain wards where photo ID is required to combat electoral fraud. For many years certain people have been collecting hundreds of polling cards and using them to vote for their candidate. At long last the government is trying to do something about it. Not everyone plays by the rules.
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I have no issue with ID being required. It just seems that the young and old have had their democratic right made a little less accessible.
Here’s a conundrum…
If you turn up and vote - but spoil your vote, that is recorded as “you voted”
However;
If you don’t turn up to vote you are recorded as “not voting”; and so a wannabe councillor may turn up to all you “why,”?
So …
Is it more useful to be “a voter”; albeit to zero effect,
Or,
To not vote and have a potential conduit to someone who cares?
Vote tactically. That’s the system. Anything else is pissing in the wind.
The last few days I have been thinking we might be better off with a dictatorship(Shock, Horror). We have piss weak politicians beholden to the press/media, shyster lawyers and wokey snowflakes and the result is nothing gets done. Take illegal immigrants for instance. The vast majority of people want it stopped yet we have feeble weak politicians who are blocked at every pathetic attempt they make. Blocked by a few wokey snowflakes who employ some clever lawyers to block all attempts. At least if we had strong leadership, these type of issues would get sorted. We came out of the EU so we could control our own borders and has the government cashed in ? No. things have become worse as far as illegals are concerned.
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Don’t be that negative, we could close Calais and authorize everybody to cross the channel 
Well now you mention Calais, we UK tax payers are paying your government millions of pounds to supposedly hunt down the people traffickers. Why would your government want to stop illegals getting across the channel to the UK ?
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Can we not go down the “wokey snowflakes” route on here as well, please? The damage that adversarial approach did on the other forum is plain to see - surely we can be better than that now, given that there are plenty of different views available for all things political? I can certainly do without negative labelling just because I might not share an opinion.
well, I was more on the joke side.
It’s not question of UK people vs French people. I’m not into that.
People traffickers are not in France, they are over another sea, where people from our both countries like to go on vacation.
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Yes, well said. Intelligent debate on differing views without the tabloid dog whistling, please.
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